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BattleCorps
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Are you monkey enough for this game?
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As you devour the PDF, if you find any errata or potential problems/issues, this is the place to put. As with all errata, please follow the standard format for posting such details.
Thanks!
ADDENDUM: Let's have a caveat here: If you cannot post constructive criticism (i.e. leave the disparaging remarks out and simply point out the flaws, suggest changes as you see fit, and basically maintain a level of maturity), do not bother to post. I have no problem considering all comments; I do have a problem with abuse. I don't stand for it among the fact-checkers and playtesters, and I don't have to stand for it here.
Failure to comply will result in the offending post deleted and the offender's comments discarded as useless.
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Lieutenant Colonel
Posts: 8685
Weapons online...
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Page 151: Piloting Skill description
Currently it lists: Subskills: Aerospace, Air Vehicle, Battlesuit, ’Mech, Spacecraft
Yet lists the Protomech subskill in further detail, also only Air Vehicle is listed in the first line yet in further detail we have the other vehicles listed out.
Suggested fix: put Protomech in the Subskills line at the beginning of it, change "Air Vehicle" in the first line to just "Vehicles" because the breakdown is already listed afterwards.
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Sergeant
Posts: 122
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Military Field Scout (page 84) listing two time the same Disguise skill. One should instead replaced with Sensor Operations or Forward Observer, which came more in handy with the Scouts field of tasks.
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Private
Posts: 39
'Mechs are for wussies
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Page 22 Lyran Alliance description
2nd paragraph : "In the wake of that conflict, the battered Alliance hopedt..."
need to drop the "t".
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Sergeant
Posts: 121
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page 134 the image quote says its an Arcas but the 'Mech is an Ursus
Page 134 the image quote says the BA attacking is a Fenrir but its a Rottweiler
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Major
Posts: 3272
" …the laws on his tail, burning for home …"
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pp. 266, the footnote says an single astric means jam chance, yet no weapons on the page have a single astric, and many of them should, according to older books . . .
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Lieutenant Colonel
Posts: 6726
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Page 127 on the general title table at line +8 tp under the clan section exclusive is misspelled.
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Catalyst Demo Team
Posts: 3485
Wanted: Laborer to clean boot.
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On page 23 under the Clans subtitle it lists the year that the Clans were founded as 2822.
The correct year is 2810.
On page 29 under the definition of Freeborn it mentions anyone born in the Clans by the natural mating of parents.
Suggested fix: Should it not read to the fact the the Clan Trueborns consider anybody who is not born in an "iron womb" to be considered "freeborns?" That way players not familiar with the Clans will not be surprised when Trueborns refer to Inner Sphere characters as "freeborns."
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God of Nukes, Fire, and Death
Writer
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pp. 266, the footnote says an single astric means jam chance, yet no weapons on the page have a single astric, and many of them should, according to older books . . .
The funny part: Every weapon has a misfire chance, actually. That's why the single asterisk no longer appears. - Herb |
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Master Sergeant
Posts: 206
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All of these are from the Bookmarks -
The Universe Before You - A Universe at War - House Davion (Federated Suns) is misspelled "House Dvion (Federated Suns)"
Stage 4 Modules - Combat Correspondent is misspelled as "Combat Corresp;ondent"
Stage 4 Modules - Clan Military Skill Fields is misspelled as "ClanMilitary Skill Fields"
Traits - Overview - Positive, Negative, and Flexible Traits is misspelled as "Positive, Negative, and Felxible Traits"
Traits - Trait Descriptions - Citizenship/Trueborn is written "CitizenshipTrueborn"
Traits - Trait Descriptions - Dependents is misspelled as "Dependts"
Traits - Trait Descriptions - Equipped is misspelled as "Equippped"
Traits - Trait Descriptions - Slow Learner is written "Slow LEarner"
Traits - Trait Descriptions - Vehicle Level is misspelled as "Vehicle Lvel"
Skills - Skills Overview - Tiered Skills is misspelled as "Tiered Skils"
Skills - Available Skills - Security Systems is misspelled as "Sccurity Systems"
Combat - Optional Personal Combat Rules is misspelled as "Optional Peronsal Combat Rules"
Tactical Combat Addendum - Action Phase - Margin of Success/Failure in Tactical Combat is written "MArgin of Success/Failure in Tactical Combat"
Tactical Combat Addendum - Action Phase - Battle Armor Weapons is misspelled as "Battle Armo Weapons"
Tactical Combat Addendum - Special Pilot Abilities is written "Special PIlot Abilities"
Equpiment - Prosthetics - Limb and Organ Replacements is written "Limb and Organ REplacements"
Equipment - The Warrior's Catalog - Personal Protective Equipment - Ballistic Plate Armor is written "Ballistice Plate Armor"
Equipment - The Warrior's Catalog - Personal Protective Equipment - Standard Armor Kits is written "Standard ARmor Kits"
Equipment - The Warrior's Catalog - Personal Protective Equipment - Hostile Environment Gear is written "Hostile Envornment Gear"
Gamemastering Guide - Character Advancement - Character Advancement Overview is misspelled as "Character Advement Overview"
Gamemastering Guide - Gamemaster Tips and Suggestions - General Gamemastering Guide is misspelled as "General Gamestering Guide"
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FormattingMech
Site Maintenance
Posts: 588
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Ignore all the bookmarks. They'll be regenerated later. Randall manually typed them all in today in his fevered excitement. ;-)
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Sergeant
Posts: 122
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Page 274, Missile Launchers Table
Following launchers missing Affiliation :
MRM LAUNCHER DC
MK 1 LIGHT AA WEAPON FW
MK 2 MAN-PORTABLE AA WEAPON FW
Page 275, Support Gauss Weapons Table
Following weapon have wrong Affiliation :
KING DAVID LIGHT GAUSS RIFLE TW have to be FW
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God of Nukes, Fire, and Death
Writer
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Military Field Scout (page 84) listing two time the same Disguise skill. One should instead replaced with Sensor Operations or Forward Observer, which came more in handy with the Scouts field of tasks.
The Forward Observer Skill no longer exists in AToW - Herb |
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God of Nukes, Fire, and Death
Writer
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Page 274, Missile Launchers Table
Following launchers missing Affiliation :
MRM LAUNCHER DC
MK 1 LIGHT AA WEAPON FW
MK 2 MAN-PORTABLE AA WEAPON FW
These weapons are no longer faction-exclusive. - Herb |
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God of Nukes, Fire, and Death
Writer
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Ignore all the bookmarks. They'll be regenerated later. Randall manually typed them all in today in his fevered excitement. ;-)
Oh good. For a second there, I almost had a ****** heart attack.... - Herb |
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Major
Posts: 3272
" …the laws on his tail, burning for home …"
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The funny part: Every weapon has a misfire chance, actually. That's why the single asterisk no longer appears. I can go three ways with that: - Lyran gear almost never had a jam chance in older meteral
- Other tables, like the pistols, seems to list weapons that don't jam
- I understand anybody can fumble, at any time, but are all fumbles with firearms (lasers, gyrojet, the paint-spray-thingie) yield a jam? By "misfire", did you mean "fumble" or "jam"?
I suspect the table may not reflect what you were going for . . . |
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Lieutenant Colonel
Posts: 9957
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Ok some suggestions
1) Character Generation Work Sheet
2) Perhaps not in the Core Book (but it would be nice if it was) but in perhaps the Companion add Early Childhood Modules of Army Brat (because why should only the Merc Affiliation get a head start on the Military life) and Gentry (because not all Officers & Mechwarriors come from the Middle and Upper Nobility).
3) Allow "Family Training" as a Late Childhood option, but regulate by location or origin Early Childhood and Era.
4) This is a Big One for a Nit Pick, on the Character Sheet more space for Traits, of the half a dozen characters I and my group have made up in the few hours since I downloaded the Beta we have used all the Trait spaces before exiting Late Childhood and all the Skill spaces before exiting our first "Higher Education" pass and that's without spending our Flexible XP on new options.
So far the game looks fantastic and is a few tweaks away from being almost perfect, I'm keeping an eye out for Typos and Editing Errors, I think I've found one or two in the Character Generation section but will double (and Triple) check to be sure before I post them.
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Sergeant
Posts: 122
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pages 261 to 275
Weapon Tables
Missing Ammo/Reload Clip Weights
pages 292 to 299
Personal Gear Tables
several Missing Clothing Weights
Suggestions :
Mil. Camo Fatigues may should come with 1.2 to 1.9kg for 3 pieces (Trouser, Shirt and Jacket) instead of non weight or plain 0.5kg. And with a C/B-B-B/A (for weight reduction due to the use of synthetic fibres and/or instead of pure cotton).
Ghilli Suits, atleast the ones uses since a few years now are fire resistant to some degree and also IR-Blocking while well/professional used. May should come as C/B-C-C/A for 150-200 C-Bills BAR : 0/0/1/0 and E/I/C : 0/1/6.
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Master Sergeant
Posts: 296
It's that guy who almost never posts!
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Well, not to sound like a whiner, but... (ok, I probably will anyway)
PG. 5, only two members of 5-man IRC playtest team (Chris Marti, "Brian Davion") mentioned. "Trenchknife", "Maelwys", and myself participated as well.
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Master Sergeant
Posts: 296
It's that guy who almost never posts!
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Pg. 133, Aerospace Fighter Random Table, Medium. Troika listed as "CMT-3T Trioka"
Additionally, Clan Front Line aerospace table looks a bit bizarre. Did they capture a few Thera-loads of WoB fighters when I wasn't looking?
Pg. 135, Industrial Mechs, #5. GUR-2G Gurkha. I somehow doubt that's issued to for industrial uses. Unless, of course, the issuer is a WoB front.
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God of Nukes, Fire, and Death
Writer
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I can go three ways with that: - Lyran gear almost never had a jam chance in older meteral
- Other tables, like the pistols, seems to list weapons that don't jam
- I understand anybody can fumble, at any time, but are all fumbles with firearms (lasers, gyrojet, the paint-spray-thingie) yield a jam? By "misfire", did you mean "fumble" or "jam"?
I suspect the table may not reflect what you were going for . . . "Misfire" is now our new term for "It doesn't shoot right". Rather than fall into the trap of explaining how Ultra ACs and Rotary ACs fail in different ways, we just simply state a weapon "misfires" on a fumble and leave it at that. Since anything that fires burst increases its chance of misfire now (rather than increasing its to-hit) they all have that chance, and it's pointless to remark about it. - Herb |
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God of Nukes, Fire, and Death
Writer
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Ok some suggestions
1) Character Generation Work Sheet
2) Perhaps not in the Core Book (but it would be nice if it was) but in perhaps the Companion add Early Childhood Modules of Army Brat (because why should only the Merc Affiliation get a head start on the Military life) and Gentry (because not all Officers & Mechwarriors come from the Middle and Upper Nobility).
3) Allow "Family Training" as a Late Childhood option, but regulate by location or origin Early Childhood and Era.
1) Ew. 2) Allow for the fact that the character creation system is simplified here, so the bloat of life modules in every product from here on out is going to be sharply controlled, because--frankly--we came to hate them. Also, for generic "army brats", the Blue Collar module can be used (as the example on p. 65 demonstrates). 3) The modules system is strict here: Formal training does NOT begin in early or late childhood unless you're going to pay through the nose for it (like the Clans do). This is why Family Training is Stage 3. All things considered, though, this doesn't seem to be errata. For the benefit of future posts, once more, I remind everyone that this is an errata thread, not a suggestions thread. (We have only one of those for this product active at this time.) - Herb |
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Private
Posts: 48
Die die diiiiiie!!!!
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1) Character Generation Work Sheet
Seconded! edit: ok, sorry for that, did not see herb post above before posting (was eagerly skimming the PDF  ) |
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Their seams to be no PA(L) RAT (but some PA(L)'s do show up on the Light BA RAT's) or Periphery ASF RAT's.
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Sergeant
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Page 65
Blue Collar Module Cost : 200 XP while Net Total is 210 XP
Born Mercenary Brat Module Cost : 300 XP while Net Total is 270 XP
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Lieutenant
Posts: 1598
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Page 70 third from last word on the last line is bse (should be base).
The only thing I can think of for consideration: that instead of having players calculate out the cost of a fields skills, to incorporate the cost listing /rebate cost after the title of the field name (i.e. Mechwarrior (150xp/30xp) ).
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Lieutenant
Posts: 1237
CAESAR VOS OBSERVAT
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Table pg 246, 3rd entry, Dog: Has a Body of 43.
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Major
Posts: 3354
Solidarity, Brother
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Page 64, caption. Change "Irritated was inspections" to "Irritated with inspections"
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Captain
Posts: 1645
The Wolf of Kampfgruppe Steiner... ready for war!
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Page 21
Incorrect page reference for additional information on the "dominant languages and religions,
government, and more—may be found on pp. 12-15"
Pages 25-27
Snapshot maps have blurry text.
Page 134
The Lyran battle armor in question is a Rottweiler, not a Fenrir.
Page 234
"xxx" is in front of the picture description text.
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God of Nukes, Fire, and Death
Writer
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Table pg 246, 3rd entry, Dog: Has a Body of 43.
You hear that, Paul!? It's an ERROR!!!! - Herb |
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Private
Posts: 48
Blake says to obey GIR.
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Page 115: Design Quirks table Potential Errata involving Poor Targeting and Sensor Ghosts, here. Page 133: Random Unit Assignment table (medium units) There's a 25t Blizzard in the medium vehicles column. Page 141: Tiered Skills Paragraph on page 141 only lists Art, Martial Arts, and Melee Weapons as tiered skills, while the Master Skills List also has Computers, Interest, and Prestidigitation. Page 142: Master Skills List Computers (both tiers) and Prestidigitation [Basic] don't have an asterisk in the TN/C column. Shouldn't the complexity codes for Basic Tiers be SB and CB, and Advanced Tiers be SA and CA? If so, Interest and Martial Arts (and their TNs) need adjusting. Prestidigitation [Advanced] has "7 / SA*T" in the TN/C column. What's the "T" denote? Page 257: Black Market base cost table Legality lines B and C, the modifiers on both go down when moving from Availability C to D, and probably makes Availability E too low. Page 269: Gyrojet weapons The Coventry Handrocket has neither a faction or a dash in the Affiliation column. Page 303: Personal computing Based on text on page 301: ...such as compads and telescans, which are designed simply for download-and-review functions... The note "text reader only" should be moved from Noteputer to Compad Page 312: General survival gear The 1 point per hour energy usage on the Basic Field Kit should be moved to the Advanced Field Kit, because of (I'm guessing) the heating plate. Pages 208 and 398: Unit size and volume table The sizes listed for vehicular units doesn't seem to mesh well with previous books: Shouldn't "Small Vehicle (<0.5 tons)" and "Medium-Heavy Vehicle (0.5-100 tons)" be changed to <5 and 5-100? The Unit Heights table in Total Warfare lists Large Support vehicles and Small Craft as being two levels tall, but this table lists Super Heavy vehicles as 5m (1 level) and Small Craft as 18m (3 levels). Pages 335 and 399: Base salary table Administrator pay is listed as 320 (monthly) and 8320 (annual), but 8320/320=26. Administrator pay is the only one that didn't get adjusted from bi-weekly to monthly between FM:Merc and FM:Merc(r). |
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God of Nukes, Fire, and Death
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The only thing I can think of for consideration: that instead of having players calculate out the cost of a fields skills, to incorporate the cost listing /rebate cost after the title of the field name (i.e. Mechwarrior (150xp/30xp) ).
This I actually considered before it became clear it wouldn't work for some applications.... - Herb |
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