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CBT Fighter Performence Specs.
on: 26 Sep, 2008, 19:37:06 pm
I'm not much of a talker but I thought I'd post this here, many of you have noticed that I have been posting some fighter performance specs, well here's most of the ones I have in one group with some commentary on them.

I allways wondered how good CBT fighters where, how fast they could go, their range and endurance. So a few years ago I started working them out myself while it's not to hard to do them, I only really do this when I'm the mood so progress has been slow, and that I had to redo a fair amount of them when I learned some new things that changed a lot of what I had done at that time. 

That said CBT fighters are fairly impressive over all.

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Name: EST-O Eisensturm (Iron Storm)
Date in service: 3066
Operator: Lyran Alliance
Mass: 95 tons
Power plant: 380 GM Fusion with a max output of 4,183.8 kN (940,500 lbf)
Acceleration: 3 to 4.5Gs
Max Low altitude speed (0-17km): 2,160kph (1,350mph) -Mach 1.77
Max High altitude speed (+72km): 12,600kph (7,875mph) -Mach 11.6
Fuel load: 5 tons +9.5t external (7.5t used here)
Range at low altitude: 2,340 km (5,940km with droptanks) - 1,462 & 3,712 miles respectively
Range at High altitude: 13,675km (34,675km with droptanks)
Endurance: 66 min (266 min, with drop tanks -note max speed at l.a. with 15 drop tanks is 1,080kph.)
Armor mass: 19.5 tons
External ordnance: 19 tons
Radar range: 1,000km
Weapons: Eisensturm is a omni fighter, however here's the prime configuration.
2x Medium Laser
2x Gauss Rifle (16 rounds each)
2x Large Laser
To start many fighters could carry 20 or so tons of bombs but doing so drops their speed down to 700KPH or less. So I decided to put a over all limit on speed of not to go below a 3/5 in speed. Though this would "limit" the pay load some what. though interstingly the over all range would not change as it turns out that each fuel point is about 6km in range at low altitude (or the 5 tons of fuel a fighter typical has would net you a range of 2,400km) though this dose not work at high altitude as there are speed limits up there.

As you can see the "Iron storm" can reach mach 1.77 at sea level and it's maximum speed in an atmosphere is mach 11.6 at 72,000 meters (~236,000feet).It's flight time is 66 minutes with internal fuel though this can be extended by flying slower (though the overall range dose not change). As for engine power well to compare it with a real life rocket engine the F-1 (of saturn rocket fame) has a power of 6,770kN at sea level. Also the RS-68 (Delta IV) is rated at 2,900kN at sea level and 3,300kN in space.

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Name: SDY Z4 Seydlitz
Date in service: ~3054
Operator: Lyran Alliance
Mass: 20 tons
Power plant: 180 XL Fusion rated at 1,664kN (374,850lbf)
Acceleration: 8.5Gs
Max Low altitude speed (0-17km): 3,960kph (2,475mph) -Mach 3.23
Max High altitude speed (+90km): 15,750kph (9,844mph) -Mach 16.1
Fuel load: 5 tons +2 tons external
Range at LA: 2,375km (3,325km with droptanks) -1,485 & 2,078 miles
Range at HA: 9,450km (13,500km with droptanks)
Endurance: 36 min on internal (52 min with droptanks)
Armor mass: 3.5 tons Ferro-aluminum
External ordnance: 4 tons
Radar range: 1,000km
Weapons: 1x RAMTech 1200X ER Large Laser
Well here we have the Hot rod fighter (which looks like a door wedge). It's low altitued speed is phenomenal at mach 3.2, It can't fly for very long at that speed but it can go some where in a hurry.

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Name: SB-27 Sabre
Date in service: SB-26: ~2330, SB-27: ~2500 
Operator: All IS factions
Mass: 25 tons
Power plant: 225 Fusion rate at 2,080kN (468,563lbf)
Acceleration: 8.5Gs
Max Low altitude speed (0-17km): 3,960kph (2,475mph) -Mach 3.23
Max High altitude speed (+90km): 15,750kph (9,844mph) -Mach 16.1
Fuel load: 5 tons +2.5 tons external
Range at LA: 2,375km (3,575km) -1,485 & 2,234 miles
Range at HA: 9,450km (14,650km)
Endurance: 36 min on internal (56 min with droptanks)
Armor mass: 4 tons standard
External ordnance: 5 tons
Radar range: 1,000km
Weapons: 3x Tronel II Medium Lasers
manages the same range as the Seydlitz but gets a little better range due to it's slightly larger external payload.

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Name: EGL-R6 Eagle
Date in service: Every one
Operator: 2601
Mass: 75 tons
Power plant: 300 fusion rated at 3,302kN (744,188lbf)
Acceleration: 4.5Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 2,160kph (1,350mph) -Mach 1.77
Max High altitued speed (+72km): 12,600kph (7,875mph) -Mach 11.6
Fuel load: 5 tons +7.5 tons external
Range at LA: 2,375km (5,975km with droptanks)
Range at HA: 13,860km (34,850km with drop tanks)
Endurance: 66 min (266 min with droptanks)
Armor mass: 14 tons standerd
External ordnance: 15 tons
Radar range: 1,000km
Weapons: 3x Magna Mk III Large Lasers, 5x Magna Mk II Medium Lasers
This is pretty much a generic fighters performance is like. The range at high altitued with droptanks is very good, 10 times the ferry range of a F-22 Raptor.

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Name: SL-15 Slayer
Date in service: ~2780
Operator: Draconis combine
Mass: 80 tons
Power plant: 320 Shinobi Fusion rated at 3,530kN (793,664lbf)
Acceleration: 4.5Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 2,160kph (1,350mph) -Mach 1.77
Max High altitued speed (+72km): 12,600kph (7,875mph) -Mach 11.6
Fuel load: 10 tons +8 tons (7.5 used here)
Range at LA: 4,770km (8,360km with drop tanks)
Range at HA: 27,750km (48,750km with drop tanks)
Endurance: 133 min (333 min with droptanks)
Armor mass: 14.5 tons standerd
External ordnance: 16 tons
Radar range: 1,000km
Weapons: 1x Zeus 56 Mk IV AC-10, 6x Diverse Optics Type 20 Medium Lasers
When you want to reach out and touch some one there is not much better than the Slayer. It can fly all the way around the world with fuel to spear. If you put a 5 ton bomb load on it with 5 tons of external fuel you can still fly all the way around, as it still has a range of 41,000km (40,075km for the Earth). 

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Name: CHP-5W Chippewa
Date in service:
Operator: Lyran Commonwealth and others
Mass: 90 tons
Power plant: 270 fusion rated at 3,530kN (793,664lbf)
Acceleration: 4Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 1,800kph  (1,125mph) Mach 1.47
Max High altitued speed (+72km): 10,500kph (6,562mph) Mach 9.72
Fuel load: 5 tons +9t external (5t used here)
Range at LA: 2,375km (4,770km with droptanks)
Range at HA: 13,800km (27,775km with drop tanks)
Endurance: 80min (213min with 5t external fuel)
Armor mass: 7.5 tons
External ordnance: 18 tons (10 tons used here)
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: 4x large lasers, 2x LRM 15s (4t ammo), 2x Med lasers, 2x small lasers and 1x SRM6 (1t ammo)
Pretty much a standerd heavy fighter, though as you can see the internal fuel range is very smilier to most other fighters at some 2,375km which surprised me.

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Name: Striga Omnifighter
Date in service: 3071
Operator: Word of Blake Manei Domini
Mass: 85 tons
Power plant: 340 XL fusion
Acceleration: 4.5Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 2,160kph (1,350mph) -Mach 1.77
Max High altitued speed (+72km): 12,600kph (7,875mph) -Mach 11.6
Fuel load: 5 tons + 8.5 tons (7.5 used)
Range at LA: 2,375km (5,975km with droptanks)
Range at HA: 13,860km (34,850km with drop tanks)
Endurance: 66 min (266 min with droptanks)
Armor mass: 18t FF
External ordnance: 17 tons
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: Omni fighter
Prime Config 1x Gauss rifle, 4x ER medium, 2x Heavy PPCs
Your typical heavy fighter.

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Name: Shade Omnifighter
Date in service: 3072
Operator: Word of Blake Manei Domini
Mass: 35 tons
Power plant: 245 XL fusion, rated at 2,402kN (540,132lbf)
Acceleration: 7Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 3,240kph (2,025mph) -mach 2.65
Max High altitued speed (+90km): 15,750kph (9,844mph) -Mach 16.1
Fuel load: 5 tons +3.5t external
Range at LA: 2,370km (3,670km with droptanks)
Range at HA: 11,350km (21,150km with droptanks)
Endurance: 44 min (75 min with drop tanks -speed with drop tanks is 2,520kph)
Armor mass: 6.5 tons FF armor
External ordnance: 7 tons
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: omnifighter
Prime configuration: 1x Heavy PPC, 2x Medium pulse lasers, 1x ECM suit

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Name: Rusalka Omnifighter
Date in service: ~3072
Operator: Word of Blake Manei Domini
Mass: 65 tons
Power plant: 325 XL fusion, rated at 3,505kN (788,152lbf)
Acceleration: 5.5Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 2,520kph (1,575mph) -mach 2.06
Max High altitued speed (+90km): 14,700kph (9,187mph) -mach 15.05
Fuel load: 5 tons +6.5 tons
Range at LA: 2,390km (5,500km with droptanks)
Range at HA: 13,775km (31,975km with droptanks)
Endurance: 57 min (187 min with droptanks -speed with droptanks is 1,440kph)
Armor mass: 12 tons FF
External ordnance: 13 tons
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: Omnifighter
Prime configuration: 1x ERPPC, 1x LRM 15 w/art 4, 2x Medium Pulse lasers 4x ER Medium lasers, 1x ER small laser

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Name: Raubvogel (Coventinal fighter)
Date in service:
Operator: Lyran Aliance & federated suns
Mass: 45t
Power plant: 180 turbine rated at 1,324kN (297,624lbf)
Acceleration: 3Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 1,440kph -Mach 1.175
Max High altitued speed (+54km): 8,400kph -mach 7.18
Fuel load: 2 tons +2.5 tons
Range at LA: 1,920km (3,240km with droptanks)
Range at HA: 11,100km (18,800km with droptanks)
Endurance: 80 min (180 min with drop tanks)
Armor mass: 2 tons FF
External ordnance: 5 tons
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: 1x Large Laser, 1x Streak SRM-2 2x SRM-4
Despite it's slow speed the Raubvogel has a desent range dispite it's low fuel bunkerage.

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Name: Meteor Heavy Strike Fighter
Date in service: Pre 2750
Operator: Every one
Mass: 45 tons
Power plant: 225 fusion rated at 1,765kN (396,832lbf)
Acceleration: 4Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 1,800kph (1,125mph) Mach 1.47
Max High altitued speed (+72km): 10,500kph (6,562mph) Mach 9.72
Fuel load: 3 tons (4.5t external)
Range at LA: 2,850km (7,170km with external)
Range at HA: 16,600km (41,800km with external)
Endurance: 96min (336min with external)
Armor mass: 2.5t
External ordnance: 9t
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: 1x AC-10 w/2t ammo, 2x SRM-4 w/ 2t ammo
Though I do a few conventional fighters as well, the Meteor has a fairly impressive range for a conventional, like the Slayer it can reach around the world though not with a bomb load.

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Name: Mosquito Radar Plane
Date in service: 2439
Operator: every one?
Mass: 75 tons
Power plant: Fusion powered turboprop
Acceleration: 3Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 1,080kph
Max High altitued speed (+90km): NA
Fuel load: NA
Range at LA: Unlimited
Range at HA: NA
Endurance: Limited by crew only
Armor mass: 1 ton BAR-6
External ordnance: 4 tons +18 tons extra fuel
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: 1x ER medium laser, Look down Radar, Sensor droper, refueling drogue, IR camera & High res camera
 
Need a few support aircraft as well. A bit slow but it's quite capable (though I only gave it a speed of 6 when it can reach a speed of 7 or 1260 kph which is above mach 1... ) that fusion plant gives it a unlimited range. Though I don't think the crews would be happy to spend more than a day or two.

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Name: Stork aerial tanker
Date in service: 2623
Operator: Capellan Confederation (every one?)
Mass: 80 tons
Power plant: Fusion rated at 3,138kN (705,479lbf)
Acceleration: 4Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 1,800kph
Max High altitued speed (+72km): 10,500kph?
Fuel load: 5 tons (250points)
Range at LA: 1,500km
Range at HA: 8,570km
Endurance: 50min
Armor mass: 5.5 tons BAR-10
External ordnance: NA carrys 19.5tons fuel
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: 4x AMS, 2x SRM-4 & refueling drogue
While it's faster speed makes the Stork a better tanker then the Mosquito the Stork ironically has a rather short range.

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Name: Sulla
Date in service: unknown
Operator: The Clans
Mass: 45 tons
Power plant: 315 XL Fussion rated at 3,089kN (694,456lbf)
Acceleration: 7Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 3,240kph (2,025mph) -Mach 2.65
Max High altitued speed (+90km): 15,750kph (9,844mph) -Mach 16.1
Fuel load: 5 tons +4.5 tons
Range at LA: 2,360km (4,500km with droptanks)
Range at HA: 11,475km (23,950km with drop tanks)
Endurance: 44 min (95min with droptanks)
Armor mass: 8.5 tons Clan FF armor
External ordnance: 9 tons
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: Omnifighter
Prime config: 1x ER PPC, 2x ER large laser & 1x ER small laser

Well Need to do a Clan fighter.

Well there they are, If any one wants to know more or have a fighter/smallcraft you would like to see, well you can ask... Smiley
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Things I would like to add at some point
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1: A climb rate would be usefull
2: Turnning Radius for high and low altitueds.


PS: The low altitued ranges is based off the capital scale as I find it rather odd for a fighter to have such ridiculously short ranges when at the same time it can have "incredable ranges" just by climbing a few km up. Though this dose not mean it can not use the fighter scale fuel usage when in combat at that level, IIRC combat dose drain your fuel levels quite fast (or faster than when just flying around).
WWII: How you can not have hatred for the Russians after your experiences with them?
Erich Hartmann: One thing I learned is this: Never allow yourself to hate a people because of the actions of a few. Hatred and bigotry destroyed my nation, and millions died. I hope most people did not hate Germans because of the Nazis, or Americans because of slaves. Never hate, it only eats you alive. Keep an open mind and always look for the good in people.You may be surprised at what you find.
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Re: CBT Fighter Performence Specs.
Reply #1 on: 26 Sep, 2008, 20:56:54 pm
Wow, neat to see some "real world" specs in here. Interesting to see how they stack up against modern craft. Neato!
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"Rule# 11: Everything is air droppable at least once"

"Rule#34: If you're leaving scorch marks, you need a bigger gun"

"Rule #36: When the going get's tough...the tough call for close air support."

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Re: CBT Fighter Performence Specs.
Reply #2 on: 01 Oct, 2008, 02:16:36 am
Yes as you can see CBT craft are generally Superior to real life craft. Though real life aircraft can reach speeds of ~2000 kph at low altitude with accelerations of only about 1G. But few real world aircraft can fly where CBT aircraft can or go as far with the amount of fuel they carry.


Thought I do a few Small Craft so see what thy can do.

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Name: KR-61 Long Range Shuttle
Date in service: ~2600
Operator: every one
Mass: 100 tons
Power plant: Fusion drive rated at 2,942kN
Acceleration: 3Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 1,440kph -Mach 1.18
Max High altitued speed (+54km): 8,400kph -Mach 7.18
Fuel load: 25 tons
Range at LA: 12,000km
Range at HA: 69,890km
Endurance: 500min
Armor mass: 6 tons standerd
External ordnance: 15 tons
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: None
Miss: 2 passengers and 2.5 tons cargo  Cheesy

Now I am not happy with how CBT has treated it's small craft, many of them have crazy things put on them even though they may not fill that role.  -see below.
For the KR-61 is obviously a long range shuttle so I would expect it to have a long range, If small craft can carry external ordinance then here's your long range bomber, It can fly all the way around the world and then some though it may take up to 33 hours with a full bomb load...

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Name: Mk VII Landing Craft
Date in service: ~2840
Operator: every one
Mass: 150 tons
Power plant: Fusion drive rated at 4,413kN
Acceleration: 3Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 1,440kph -Mach 1.18
Max High altitued speed (+54km): 8,400kph -Mach 7.18
Fuel load: 3 tons
Range at LA: 1,440km
Range at HA: 8,300km
Endurance: 60min
Armor mass: 13 tons standerd
External ordnance: 15 tons
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: 2x Small lasers 6x Medium Lasers
Miss: 31 tons cargo 

Now this one irks me to no end, it's only got 3 tons of fuel and as you can see it's very short ranged but has full crew cabins even though it has a max range of only 1.6 days at 1G. It's also got a much smaller cargo capacity than what it's fluffed to have (but that's a issue for all small craft) still you could stuff in almost 2 platoons of BA, a Light tank or APC/Scout tank or 280 infantry. Though it's fluffed to carry tanks like the Rommel and Patton (or any thing up to 65 tons)...

finally a few support aircraft
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Name: Federated-Boeing FB-335 Longhaul
Date in service:unknown
Operator: every one
Mass: 200 tons
Power plant: ICE power plant rated at 4,903kN (1,102,311 lbf)
Acceleration: 2.5Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 1,080kph -Mach 0.88
Max High altitued speed (+36km): 6,300kph -Mach 5.6 (speed of sound at 36km is 1,125kph)
Fuel load: 17.5 tons petrochemicals
Range at LA: 4,550km
Range at HA: 26,450km
Endurance: 253min
Armor mass: 4.5 tons Bar 8
External ordnance: None
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: None
Miss: 105 tons Cargo, 26 passengers and a 3 ton kitchen/sanitation gear Aircraft is STOL capable

Need to move that Atlas but don't have a dropship around? Well here you go. It has a surprisingly good range at altitued with decent speed. Though amusingly it has a 3 ton kitchen and "bathroom" unit for the 32 passengers and crew even though most flight would not last more than a few hours. There is a passenger configuration that holds some 700 passengers and some 50 tons of cargo.

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Name: Lockheed/CBM KC-9 “King Karnov”
Date in service:unknown
Operator: every one?
Mass: 200 tons
Power plant: Turboprop/ Fuelcell
Acceleration: 2.5Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 1,080kph -Mach 0.88
Max High altitued speed: NA
Fuel load: 4 tons Fuelcell
Range at LA: 1,125km
Range at HA: NA
Endurance: 63min
Armor mass: 6 tons Bar 7
External ordnance: None
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: None
Miss: 76 tons cargo, 1x 3 ton rear mounted crane and VSTOL capable
The so called "King Karnov" it dose not have all that great of a range but it dose hold more than twice the cargo than a regular Karnov and at a much higher speed (6 times in fact). While it's not armed or well armed nor dose it have a great range, it can deliver a 76 ton paylode out to about 375km and back in about an hour, Which would take a standard Karnov 2 hours to reach with a 6 ton payload (or 4 hours and 21 minutes with a 36 ton payload).
WWII: How you can not have hatred for the Russians after your experiences with them?
Erich Hartmann: One thing I learned is this: Never allow yourself to hate a people because of the actions of a few. Hatred and bigotry destroyed my nation, and millions died. I hope most people did not hate Germans because of the Nazis, or Americans because of slaves. Never hate, it only eats you alive. Keep an open mind and always look for the good in people.You may be surprised at what you find.
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Re: CBT Fighter Performence Specs.
Reply #3 on: 16 Oct, 2008, 18:10:37 pm
Well I sence noticed that Conventional and support Aircraft are limited to the first two rows on the high alititued tables, this reduces there speed and range but increses there loiter times. So here's some corrections.


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Name: Raubvogel (Conventional fighter)
Date in service:
Operator: Lyran Aliance & federated suns
Mass: 45t
Power plant: 180 turbine rated at 1,324kN (297,624lbf)
Acceleration: 3Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 1,440kph -Mach 1.175
Max High altitued speed (18-35km): 3,240kph -Mach 2.88
Fuel load: 2 tons +2.5 tons
Range at LA: 1,920km (3,240km with droptanks)
Range at HA: 8,550km (19,350km with droptanks)
Endurance: 80 min (180 min with drop tanks), HA 160min (360min with droptanks)
Armor mass: 2 tons FF
External ordnance: 5 tons
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: 1x Large Laser, 1x Streak SRM-2 2x SRM-4
Loses a 2600km with internal but gains about 550km with external, as well as a considerable incresed loiter time of up to 6 hours. She can carry 2 LAtA missiles and a single drop tank and fly for up to 3 hours 20 min (~10,800km) which would be quite usefull for providing combat aircover.

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Name: Meteor Heavy Strike Fighter; Model A
Date in service: Pre 2750
Operator: Every one
Mass: 45 tons
Power plant: 225 fusion rated at 1,765kN (396,832lbf)
Acceleration: 4Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 1,800kph (1,125mph) Mach 1.47
Max High altitued speed (18-35km): 3,240kph (2,015mph) Mach 2.88
Fuel load: 3 tons (4.5t external)
Range at LA: 2,850km (7,170km with external)
Range at HA: 12,890km (32,300km with external)
Endurance at LA: 96min (336min with external)
Endurance at HA: 240min (600min with external)
Armor mass: 2.5t
External ordnance: 9t
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: 1x AC-10 w/2t ammo, 2x SRM-4 w/ 2t ammo
My favoret Conventional fighter, she loses a lot in range but gains a lot in loiter time, she went from an hour and a half to four hours of flight time with internal, to a whopping 10 hours with external. In a CAP role she can carry 4 LAtA missiles and a droptank and fly for just over four and a half hours, very nice.


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Name: Stork aerial tanker
Date in service: 2623
Operator: Capellan Confederation (every one?)
Mass: 80 tons
Power plant: Fusion rated at 3,138kN (705,479lbf)
Acceleration: 4Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 1,800kph
Max High altitued speed (18-35km): 3,240kph
Fuel load: 5 tons (250points)
Range at LA: 1,500km
Range at HA: 8,900km (6,600km at max speed)
Endurance at LA: 50min
Endurance at HA: 250min (125min at max speed)
Armor mass: 5.5 tons BAR-10
External ordnance: NA carrys 19.5tons fuel
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: 4x AMS, 2x SRM-4 & refueling drogue

Well at high altitueds she goes from a some what worringly short 50mins flight time to a resonable fours hours at 2160kph.

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Name: Federated-Boeing FB-335 Longhaul
Date in service:unknown
Operator: every one
Mass: 200 tons
Power plant: ICE power plant rated at 4,903kN (1,102,311 lbf)
Acceleration: 2.5Gs
Max Low altitued speed (0-17km): 1,080kph -Mach 0.88
Max High altitued speed (+36km): 3,2400kph -Mach 2.88 (speed of sound at 36km is 1,125kph)
Fuel load: 17.5 tons petrochemicals (760points)
Range at LA: 4,550km
Range at HA: 20,450km
Endurance at LA: 253min
Endurance at HA: 380min
Armor mass: 4.5 tons Bar 8
External ordnance: None
Radar Range: 1,000km
Weapons: None
Miss: 105 tons Cargo, 26 passengers and a 3 ton kitchen/sanitation gear Aircraft is STOL capable
capable of transporting 105 tons practily any where in six hours and twenty minutes. Or if it putters along at 2160kph, 12.7 hours (it also gains about 5,000km in range as well).
WWII: How you can not have hatred for the Russians after your experiences with them?
Erich Hartmann: One thing I learned is this: Never allow yourself to hate a people because of the actions of a few. Hatred and bigotry destroyed my nation, and millions died. I hope most people did not hate Germans because of the Nazis, or Americans because of slaves. Never hate, it only eats you alive. Keep an open mind and always look for the good in people.You may be surprised at what you find.
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