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Battlemechs v.1999 Vehicles v1.999 BattleArmor v1.999 Protomechs v1.998 Fighters, Aerospace and Conventional v1.996 Conventional Infantry v1.996 Battleforce Stats based on Strategic Operations. Please let me know if you use these, just so I feel like there was a reason for all this  . Any questions on the conversions please ask.
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No trouble at all...
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That's awesome. This is for TWBF as found in StratOps, right?
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Yes.
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Shin kicker blades for the win!
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Anytime somebody post a Battleforce related anythingt, it is a good day.
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Solidarity, Brother
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My hero!
Unfortunately, when I try and open the PDF it tells me that the file is damaged =(
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M.U.L. Team
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And watch the sunrise.
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Works fine on this end. Have you tried downloading again?
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add the file is updated anyway.
updated all vehicle BVs to current heavy metal vee BV2.
added RS MWDA vehicles.
added RS Unique Fighters aero.
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I love you as much as I can love anyone over the internet who I don't know beyond posting some amazingly useful stuff to the internets.
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I love you as much as I can love anyone over the internet who I don't know beyond posting some amazingly useful stuff to the internets.
Provocative pictures might help you improve that level of affection. For nenechan. Not for me. Just to be clear. |
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Was this printed from the Excel file that's out? It looks really familiar...
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M.U.L. Team
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Yes. The Excel file is in Xotl's thread (in my sig). But I was constantly seeing new posts saying "where are BF stats", so I wanted to put the stats only in a seperate thread. The PDF is just the abbrev Credits and BF Stats tabs from the Excel spreadsheet.
*starts converting warships*
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Catalyst Demo Team
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Yes. The Excel file is in Xotl's thread (in my sig). But I was constantly seeing new posts saying "where are BF stats", so I wanted to put the stats only in a seperate thread. The PDF is just the abbrev Credits and BF Stats tabs from the Excel spreadsheet.
*starts converting warships*
Ahh... Speaking of...who's more accurate on stats: the Excel file or HMP? I found a couple minor discrepancies... |
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HMP doesn't do SO Battleforce stats, it does the earlier BF2 stats.
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HMP doesn't do SO Battleforce stats, it does the earlier BF2 stats.
That would explain it... Thankie! |
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Provocative pictures might help you improve that level of affection. For nenechan. Not for me. Just to be clear.
Just don't tell my wife! |
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Marriage is about sharing, nenechan, even if that means not getting to bogart nckestrel's pics.  Okay...my creepiness meter is rising....I'm not sure who won. I concede, nonetheless. |
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Oh hey, Battleforce stats!
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added Warships from TRO 3057R, TRO3067 (except "Lost Warships"), and Jihad Turning Points: New Avalon, Luthien, Tharkad, Sian.
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Did you use the Black Lion from TP: Sian or TRO 3057r? The Sian sheet is highly flawed.
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3057R Black Lion.
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uploading v2.19 now. included Jumpships, the Lost Warships from TRO3057R, the Warships/Jumpship from TRO 3075, the dropships from Jihad Secrets (also added a note that the battlemechs from Jihad Secrets had been added a while ago).
I have some small craft to do (go Battle Taxis), and that should be all military hardware. if something is missing, please let me know.
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updated.
added Jumpships
added SLDF Royal Vehicles and Aero
Added BV for RS Sword and Dragon mechs
fixed Aerospace,Dropship, Warship, Infantry & BattleArmor BV
added JHS3076 Dropships/Warship
added TRO3057R Small Craft
renamed Infantry and Battle Armor "mechcodes" to hopefully make them easier to find
moved AC/SRM/LRM damage to Base for Aerospace (Dropships/Warships) since those types do not separate it out
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somebody on another thread mentioned Battlemech comparison charts. originally meant physical height, but got me to consider comparing BF stats. the chart image below is from all the units I've converted so far, which is every one I have found so far . This chart is Battlemechs only, by weight class and then tech level. Average Short, Medium and Long range damage values, then movement speed, battle value, armor and structure.  |
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Updated with some minor corrections.
I don't have and/or can't figure out the Koschei variants, TI-2PA, MSK-7 and MSK-8.
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HMP doesn't do SO Battleforce stats, it does the earlier BF2 stats.
Is there a difference? I am just wondering if using older tech, will the BF2 sheets from HMP work for SO Battleforce. |
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SO BattleForce has some substantial differences - everything has armour and structure now, tanks can have turret as well as front arcs and can take motive crits, units with large numbers of missile launchers or autocannons can use specialist ammo, there's a lot of new special traits that weren't there before
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Is there a difference? I am just wondering if using older tech, will the BF2 sheets from HMP work for SO Battleforce.
I ran some comparison units between HMP and doing it through SO, and there's enough differences that I'm going to be generating our October game by hand. Not that I'm thrilled at that prospect mind you...  |
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Plus a huge number of the short-range mech damage values will be different, because of the ways in which the two rulesets calculate melee damage differently.
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I have to advocate using nckestrel's spreadsheet over redoing everything by hand Slade. All of our TPC Battleforce games have been done using numbers from his spreadsheet and we have had virtually no problems. We have played at least a dozen good games and I really like the format of presenting the info, it even includes bubbles for armor and structure.
Thanks again for all the hard work to all who have helped generate such a great tool. I personally think that we will never see the official stats from Catalyst so the spreadsheet has truly been a savior. Everyone in our group who has played BF has really enjoyed it and we are still adding in more layers and rules with each game.
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I ran some comparison units between HMP and doing it through SO, and there's enough differences that I'm going to be generating our October game by hand. Not that I'm thrilled at that prospect mind you... Just a note that we are working hard to add in BattleForce conversion to Solaris Skunkwerks. I've already written in the sheet printing (into Battletech Force Balancer too) but we are trying to finalize the special abilities and damage amounts. With that said, thanks to you guys for all this great work, I am using the files as my comparison to see if we are getting it right or not. |
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Thanks again for all the hard work to all who have helped generate such a great tool. I personally think that we will never see the official stats from Catalyst so the spreadsheet has truly been a savior. Everyone in our group who has played BF has really enjoyed it and we are still adding in more layers and rules with each game. You'll see it eventually I'm sure - it's just another one of those behind-the-scenes projects that there's not much point in talking about (and raising false due-date hopes on) until it's done. |
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