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Captain
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What's your favorite fight scene?

Grosse Pointe Blank is on TV in the living room right now, and I've got to thinking about cinematic fight scenes.  I have to say that the fight in the hallway between Martin Blank (John Cusack) and Felix (Benny the Jet Urquidez) in Grosse Point Blank is probably my favorite.  So now I pose the question to all of you: "What is your favorite example of cinematic butt whoopin'?"
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

Probably the Connery/Robert Shaw in the train scene in "From Russia With Love".  Second is the alley fight with Roddy Piper and Keith David in "They Live".
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

Second is the alley fight with Roddy Piper and Keith David in "They Live".

This was going to be my #1.  Afro
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Captain
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Warning: Bullets come out this end...

Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

There were so many great things about that movie...
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Lieutenant
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

duh!
the clifftop fencing match in Princess Bride!

more to come later
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Captain
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Crosses Crooks - Mech Poachers

Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

oh so many to choose from...

If we are talking gun-fight then it would have to be from Hard Boiled.

Fisticuffs... well.  Any which way you can.  I still remember that one after seeing it 30 years ago.
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

Found the clip.

They Live fight scene.

 Afro
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CamoSpecs
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?



Fisticuffs... well.  Any which way you can.  I still remember that one after seeing it 30 years ago.

and as a close second for the old farts, the fist fight in "The Quiet Man"
John Wayne punching a guy half way accross Ireland

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Colonel
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Capellans are Endless.

Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

It's not so much about "butt-whoopin,'" but the lightsaber duel between Luke and Vader in The Empire Strikes Back remains a particular favourite for me.
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Captain
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I'm not a liberator, I'm a lagomorph.

Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

The fight club scene from Ong-Bak: Muay Thai Warrior, particularly the bit where he fights Mad Dog, is hard to beat.
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Captain
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Crosses Crooks - Mech Poachers

Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

Found the clip.

They Live fight scene.

 Afro

Whole movie is on Youtube...guess its going to be 2am before i sleep tonight.  So much to like about that movie.

"Time to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and i am all out of bubble gum"

Another good fight scene.

Pulp Fiction.  Simple for the line "Feel that sting, that's pride talking to you"  I wanted my wife to use that on one of her coworkers.  They used to excuse their treating her so terribly in that she did something bad in her past life.  At that point i would have cold cocked the person and said "feel that burn?  yeah thats just Karma catching up with you"
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Colonel
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

The fight club scene from Ong-Bak: Muay Thai Warrior, particularly the bit where he fights Mad Dog, is hard to beat.

Wait till you see Ong-Bak 2. Instead of a plot that rises and falls, Ong-Bak starts at the level of the Mad Dog fight and from there, IS ALL RISE.
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Major
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Classic mix-up.

Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

All the fight scenes in Casino Royale stand out in my mind, but nothing compares to the final scene of There Will Be Blood, even though it's totally one-sided.
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Major
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

Jackie Chan and Jet Li in The Forbidden Kingdom.
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

Favorite fight scene in what respect?  One that tells a good story?  One that feels "completely real" even though it can't physically be?  One that flat-out feels real?  One with insane or ground-breaking choreography? 

As a professional fight coordinator, I love different fights for different things.  Different scenes simply can't be compared, for both technical and artistic reasons.  You simply cannot compare the near-perfect comedic fights in "Drunken Master" to the iconic clifftop fight in "the Princess Bride" to the hardcore masterpiece that is the spiral ramp fight in "The Protector".  You're comparing apples to weasels.

That said, here's a list of some of MY favorite "modern" fights, and why (and a YouTube link if I can find it without significant effort).  I'll limit myself to small-scale swordplay (so no huge group fights or gunplay, sorry "Children of Men").  These are in no particular order, and off the top of my head:



The Court Jester Danny Kaye vs Basil Rathbone.   Danny Kaye's schizophrenic swashbuckler and natural energy help make this scene one of the best comedic fights in history, if not THE best.  Going back and forth from to completely incompetent to the "greatest with a blade" with a mere snap of the fingers is simply hilarious.  Poor Basil truly had his work cut out for him staying unharmed in this scene.  Video Link

CoN: Prince Caspian Peter (William Moseley) vs Miraz (Sergio Castellitto).  Yup, a kid's flick.  Here's the thing, though.  This fight set a new standard in the stage fighting community for armored combat.  Generally speaking, armor is always depicted as heavy and unwieldy (see also: Excalibur) or completely useless (most movies).  CoN:PC, however, depicted armored combat as it actually is - fast and deadly, with the combatants fighting around the other guy's armor, not trying to pound through it, and with the armor actually having redeeming protective value.  Watch especially after the helms come off and practically every blow is thereafter aimed at the face, and watch when Peter takes a cut across his vambraces (arm guards) to protect his face and the armor isn't even dented.  THAT'S why people wore it! Video Link

The Princess Bride  Inego Montoya vs The Man in Black.  Really, if you don't know why this is on the list, you fail at watching movies.  A masterpiece in every respect.  For sheer dramatic impact, the "My Name is Inego..." scene is better, but it's hardly a fight, so the cliffside fight takes the slot.  Video Link

The Seven Samurai  Kyuzo vs Random Dumbass Samurai.  If you want to know how most real swordfights look between unarmored combatants ("civilian duels"), watch this.  This probably represents a good 50% of them.  One technique, and done.  In another 49%, both people die from a more or less simultaneous strike.  The last 1% is the extended sequence of attack and counterattack what everybody thinks of when they think "swordfight".  Video Link

Troy  Hector vs Achilles.  And not just because Richard Ryan (one of my SAFD Fight Masters) did the duel.  This fight showcases two completely different fighting styles (Hector is straight-ahead, straight-back linear, while Achilles is circular in movement, always attacking around the shield as opposed to everyone else in the movie) and making them both completely plausible onscreen without CGI trickery. What's more, this is a wonderful example of a fight telling a story. A fight without a story behind it is just dance with metal props - essentially masturbation for the stunt coordinator.  "Ooh - look at the pretty dances I can make my actors do!".  A LOT of fights, especially the unnecessarily-long ones, and a LOT of them out of the eastern movie tradition, have that problem (Jet Li is especially prone to doing this).  But this one's got a story, with a clear beginning, rising action, setback, recovery, climax, and falling action.  Video Link

The Adventures of Robin Hood  Robin Hood (Errol Flynn/Paddy Crane) vs the Sir Guy of Gisbourne (Basil Rathbone).  Yup - Basil's on my list twice.  The man was THE "bad guy du jour" for most of the 1930s, 40s, 50s, and early 60s.  What's more, this fight set the frame for all further American film fights into the early 1990s, once Asian influences left "chop-socky flicks" and truly became mainstream.  Remember, this movie isn't a 1950's technicolor piece like most people think.  Robin Hood was done in 1938.  You've barely had sound in movies for ten years by this point.  This fight is possibly the most influential in film history (think about how often you've seen homages to the shadows dueling on the wall), and no other reason than that it deserves a slot on the list.  Fortunately, there's plenty of other reasons as well.  Video Link

The Duellists  The whole frikkin' movie.  The Duelists is a semi-true account about a pair of Napoleonic French cavalrymen who got involved in a petty dispute and fought a series of inconclusive duels over 15-ish years during the entirety of the Napoleonic Wars.  Every fight, the weapons change.  As a side bonus, the use of the weapons is generally accurate - William Hobbs (the choreographer) borrowed heavily from period fencing manuals.  It's just fun to watch, and the fights are wonderful for "feeling real", although the film print quality is iffy - it was late getting to the restoration process for DVD, and so hard to watch at time.  For those of you who like his work , this is Ridley Scott's directorial debut.  Video Link (first scene)

Scaramouche Stewart Granger vs Mel Ferrar.  A fairly typical smallsword duel in a theatre, this duel is made notable by being the longest fight in history to be done in a single take - about 7 minutes.  There were multiple cameras on set, so we get cuts between angles, but the actors only did it once.  At the time, most movie swordfights are about 2 minutes (rehearsal time is expensive) or less.  Even today, fights of greater than 4 minutes are fairly rare, and fights of greater than 4 minutes that are nothing but fighting are practically unheard of. Its record has stood for 57 years, and is considered by mostly everybody to not be beatable.  Video Link

The Protector  Tony Jaa Beats Up Everybody.   This 4-minute sequence has to be seen to be believed.  You'll note, there are no cuts - it's a single, 3:58 take where everything has to go right in a monsterously complex fight scene.  This takes the awesomeness of Scaramouche's duel and turns the volume to 11; sure it's only about half as long, but it's orders of magnitude more difficult to pull off.  The more you know about how movies are made, the more you'll see can go wrong in the fight, and the more impressed you'll be.  Video Link

The Phantom Menace  Obi-wan and Qui-Gonn Jinn vs Darth Maul.  Ignore Kenobi in the fight, and just watch Liam Neeson vs Ray Park.  Neeson is a wonderful fighter to watch, and Park is poetry in motion.  There's practically no CGI or wire work in the fights (sure, there's the sabres and backgrounds, but the fight itself is almost entirely straight-up badass human).  Again, it's just a fun fight to watch - I could have sat in the theatre for 90 minutes just watching this duel on a loop and been perfectly happy shelling out the $10 for a ticket.  Video Link that cuts out all the crap about droids and starfighters nobody cared about

Rob Roy Rob Roy (Liam Neeson) vs Archibald Cunningham (Tim Roth).  The commentary says it best: "arguably one of the best swordfights in movie history".  Cunningham has raped Rob Roy's wife, killed their son, and been a general sociopath throughout the film.  And he has the gall to thoroughly dismantle Roy in this climatic duel, using his faster, modern smallsword and reflexes to stay out of the path of Roy's archaic basket-hilted claymore.  The stomping that Roy receives and the glee with which Cunningham gloats makes the end of the fight all the more sweet.  Even 10 years after seeing it for the first time, I still have to fight the urge to leap out of my seat and yell "Yes!" when it happens.  Not especially flashy choreography, but I'm old enough I don't feel the need to be entertained by simple "motion" any longer.  Video Link
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

The bank heist/chase in Heat

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Catalyst Demo Team
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

Oh, and for reference, the WORST fight scene of all time.  It's so bad, it looped all the way back around to awesome, and then kept going to end up on the failboat.

I present: "Undefeatable".  Video Link
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Captain
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

Oh, and for reference, the WORST fight scene of all time.  It's so bad, it looped all the way back around to awesome, and then kept going to end up on the failboat.

I present: "Undefeatable".  Video Link
No man, you forgot any scene from The Musketeer. I think I have PTSD from watching the suckiness of that movie.
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Warrant Officer
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

Favourite scene of all time?

The Burly Brawl

It took over a year of filming & post prod to comlete this sequence & nothing has come close to topping it in the sheer awesome I felt while watching it. Plus all the other Matrix fight sequences are absolute gold to me.

Other faves:
Maximus vs Tigrus of Gaul (Gladiator)
Obi Wan & Qui Gon Jin vs Darth Maul (SW:Ep1 TPM)
Obi Wan vs Grevious (SW:Ep3 ROTS)
Yoda vs The Emperor (SW:Ep3 ROTS)
Hall of Mirrors & Nether Puppy Dog Fight (Equilibrium)
Achilles vs Hector (Troy)
Cloud vs Sepiroth/FF7 Characters vs Bahamut ZERO *TIE* (FF7:Advent Children)
Gandalf vs The Balrog (LOTR:FOTR & TTT - I see it as one sequence)
Nightcrawler vs the Whitehouse Guards (X2)
Spiderman vs Doctor Octopus (Spiderman 2)
Eric Draven vs the Crime Lords (The Crow)
Man in Black vs Inigo Montoya (Princess Bride)
All of the "Hero" fights (Red Cliff)
Tron vs Sark (TRON)
Final fight scene (Kung Fu Hustle)
T800 vs. T1000 (T2)


And theres many many more....
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Colonel
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Times Up POOZERS

Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

Second is the alley fight with Roddy Piper and Keith David in "They Live".
This was going to be my #1.  Afro
Still is my #1
"Now put on the dammm glasses" Afro
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Major
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

The Brides fight against the Crazy 88 in Kill Bill. From start to finish, Excellent and to cap it off her fight against O-Ren. One of the best fight scenes ever in my book.  Afro
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

@Darrian

I didn't think the film quality of "The Duellists" was bad at all when I Netflixed it again recently.  But I'm more an audiophile, and the visuals are generally fine by me no matter what.
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Master Sergeant
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

Hand-to-hand: The Teahouse fight from Matrix: Reloaded. Short but sweet.

Swordplay/archery: The woods ambush from the Korean film Musa(The Warrior).

Gunplay: Toss up between the bank heist from Heat and the final shootout from Way of the Gun.

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Warrant Officer
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

I like Jackie Chan's stuff mainly because he doesn't seem to take it seriously, and improvs with his surroundings.

The Princess Bride's - Inego Montoya vs The Man in Black is absolutely classic.

and finally, The Raider's of the Lost Ark - Indiana Jones vs The Master Swordsman. Still makes me laugh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE

Caz
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

No love for Gymkata for worst ever?

Another favourite is the two girls fighting in , particularly the metal bar.
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Major
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Classic mix-up.

Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

I'll second all the votes for the gun battle in Heat. Also, Gun Kata in Equilibrium. That movie's ten time's better than the Matrix.
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690

Macross Plus, starting at around 2:50 of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsEzMnF6hDw

Sword of the Stranger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAo7IAvgCgk

My personal favorite, Roman Polanski's Macbeth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOp-t5akdWQ
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Captain
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

Steven Seagal beating up a bar full of mooks in Out for Justice.
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Colonel
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

I'll second all the votes for the gun battle in Heat. Also, Gun Kata in Equilibrium. That movie's ten time's better than the Matrix.

I'd have to second that vote for Equilibrium. ALL of it, really. Even after a year of training, I can barely keep up with the fights in terms of stage combat.

Also, MGS4's final fight scene. Made of epic and win.

More forthcoming.
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

DW> I agree with pretty much everything you said, but must point out that the Scaramouche fight is most definitely not a single take.
Scaramouche Stewart Granger vs Mel Ferrar.  A fairly typical smallsword duel in a theatre, this duel is made notable by being the longest fight in history to be done in a single take - about 7 minutes.  There were multiple cameras on set, so we get cuts between angles, but the actors only did it once.  At the time, most movie swordfights are about 2 minutes (rehearsal time is expensive) or less.  Even today, fights of greater than 4 minutes are fairly rare, and fights of greater than 4 minutes that are nothing but fighting are practically unheard of. Its record has stood for 57 years, and is considered by mostly everybody to not be beatable.  Video Link

Still a good fight though.  Wink
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Re: What's your favorite fight scene?

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In all those Basil Rathbone, I am surprised you did not give him a third. The great sword-fight in Captain Blood. I would have to say stands right up there with The Princess Bride's epic sword-fight.

Nice to see you talk about the spiral ramp fight in The Protector.

The best fight though is purely subjective. Guns, knives, possible, impossible, fencing, unarmed brutes, unarmed martial arts.

One of my favorite fight scenes would have to be the epic Michelle Yeoh vs. Ziyi Zhang from Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OxQ-2gR1DU

Most of the fight scenes from Matrix and Matrix: Reloaded get a nod from me. I enjoy the epic implausible slow-mo destruction in many of those scenes.

More of a battle scene, the first battle in the Colosseum of Rome from Gladiator always makes me smile.
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