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Hey, I saw these (product code 20-346B) on the iron winds website, and i was wondering these were resculpted arms that better fits the artwork or if they're just the same old arms. Any info would help
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Anyone know? anyone?
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someone would have had to order them or an IWM guy would have to of come on to answer that
considering I ordered a pulverizer the DAY they were avaliable andthe order hasn't shipped yet, i doubt a consumer has thier hands on new crimson hawk arms yet.
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Major
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its a guess, but only a guess, they might be the flamer and clawed arm set, but untilMike or some one else says something its any ones guess
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i don't know why they don't have pictures of all their products up, i love iwm but some of the things they do just makes no sense to me.
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i don't know why they don't have pictures of all their products up, i love iwm but some of the things they do just makes no sense to me.
what doesnt make any sense is why iwm would design the crimson hawk with the flamer and the claw to begin with |
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Major
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it was the vairiant from the set Death From Above...
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it was the vairiant from the set Death From Above...
yeah i know, and its brutal looking |
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yeah i know, and its brutal looking
and it's wrong, there was never a mention of a crimson hawk variant in tro 3075 with a flamer. regardless, thanks for the responses. |
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The mini was made before TRO3075. I don't know what versions (if any) made it into RS:MWDA1.
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none really, which always made me wonder WHY some Dark Age era Minis were made in pewter from before offical stats were released...
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Those are probalbly the arms that come in a blister. Scrap yard parts are usually assigned stock numbers that correspond to the mold they come out of. So since it shares a number with the back pack, and the actual stock number for ordering the Crimsonhawk itself, I'd have to go with at least a 99% certainty that those are the same arms you would get in blister.
I'm pretty sure if we had new arms to match the artwork in the store, they would have actually announced it.
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and it's wrong, there was never a mention of a crimson hawk variant in tro 3075 with a flamer.  TRO 3075 is set in 3075. It's not going to include variants that, in universe, havent been created or are not in prototype/planning stages. As is, we KNOW that Crimson Hawks with a Claw+Flamer combo show up later as we've seen sculpts of them in MW:DA. As these Flamer Crimson Hawks were sculpted well before TRO 3075 came out, they set the precedent and thus cant really be wrong. If anything, it'd be TRO 3075's error for not including them, if we didnt already know more variants are bound to show up post Jihad. |
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TRO 3075 is set in 3075. It's not going to include variants that, in universe, havent been created or are not in prototype/planning stages. As is, we KNOW that Crimson Hawks with a Claw+Flamer combo show up later as we've seen sculpts of them in MW:DA. As these Flamer Crimson Hawks were sculpted well before TRO 3075 came out, they set the precedent and thus cant really be wrong. If anything, it'd be TRO 3075's error for not including them, if we didnt already know more variants are bound to show up post Jihad. He's using logic! BURN THE HERETIC!!!  |
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TRO 3075 is set in 3075. It's not going to include variants that, in universe, havent been created or are not in prototype/planning stages. As is, we KNOW that Crimson Hawks with a Claw+Flamer combo show up later as we've seen sculpts of them in MW:DA. As these Flamer Crimson Hawks were sculpted well before TRO 3075 came out, they set the precedent and thus cant really be wrong. If anything, it'd be TRO 3075's error for not including them, if we didnt already know more variants are bound to show up post Jihad. then IMO they should have sculpted new arms when tro 3075 came out cause the flamer variant looks brutal, i hated the way it looked MW:DA and i hate it in btech, it needs 'proper' arms |
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...As a note, where I come from 'brutal' is usually a POSITIVE adjective to give something, so I'm getting a bit of a disconnect here. You DONT like the Claw+Flamer version, right?
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...As a note, where I come from 'brutal' is usually a POSITIVE adjective to give something, so I'm getting a bit of a disconnect here. You DONT like the Claw+Flamer version, right?
As a side question where in the world uses "brutal" to express something positive? The flamer claw variant is no good and they made a mistake sculpting it with those arms especially when they had the proper standard arms in the dark age mini. |
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.....i'm confused by all this.  does it have proper hands yet or not? |
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.....i'm confused by all this. does it have proper hands yet or not? no, it doesnt |
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He's using logic! BURN THE HERETIC!!! Fire , Fire , Fire. back to reality. I have a feeling looking at the stats with both of the DA figures that flamer is actually the arm mounted erLLAS and the claw on the other hand is a cosmetic accessory. the newer arms are most likely are the TRO arms |
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Fire , Fire , Fire. back to reality. I have a feeling looking at the stats with both of the DA figures that flamer is actually the arm mounted erLLAS and the claw on the other hand is a cosmetic accessory. the newer arms are most likely are the TRO arms
the mini i've seen has a (small?) laser in one arm and a flamer in the other. for....some reason, they both maintain the little claw protusions the hands on the TRO image have. actually, what IS the source of the IWM design? |
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Source is easy. It is a the MW:DA mini with the exception of the right arm. http://www.warrenborn.com/Search.php?ID=crimson+hawk |
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As a side question where in the world uses "brutal" to express something positive?
The flamer claw variant is no good and they made a mistake sculpting it with those arms especially when they had the proper standard arms in the dark age mini.
Usually if the U in Brütal has Umlats over it is is to describe something positive, however some people do not know out to do Umlats |
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Or was to lazy to do so It comes from the Metal scene. Brutal was applied to stuff that sounded REALLY Metal, and came to apply to anything that seemed really Metal, and thus good. As for those arms being a mistake...I like em, and others like them, so I'd argue the MISTAKE part. But then, aethetics differ from person to person. |
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Or was to lazy to do so It comes from the Metal scene. Brutal was applied to stuff that sounded REALLY Metal, and came to apply to anything that seemed really Metal, and thus good. As for those arms being a mistake...I like em, and others like them, so I'd argue the MISTAKE part. But then, aethetics differ from person to person. i still think they are terrible, but to each his own, as for brutal if you had read my post till the end you would have understood how i felt about it and wouldnt have had to question my opinion on it  |
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i don't know why they don't have pictures of all their products up, i love iwm but some of the things they do just makes no sense to me.
Because they are a four-person operation, and spend most of their time making Mechs for us, which leaves little time for updating websites and taking pictures. Just a thought. |
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Because they are a four-person operation, and spend most of their time making Mechs for us, which leaves little time for updating websites and taking pictures.
Just a thought.
i can take pictures and upload them onto website pretty quickly and easily especially if its your own site, i spent my summer doing that as part of my summer position, and i was a one man team, and i did four other jobs on top of that and it all had to be done in a timely fashion or everything in the experiment got ruined just a thought |
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i don't know why they don't have pictures of all their products up, i love iwm but some of the things they do just makes no sense to me.
cause the workers at IWM have main jobs, IWM for them is a 2nd job/hobby to say it lightly it t could be they are busy with family and their main sources of income to have the product pirtures up, or they are waiting for a painted version of the item to me finished. |
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i still think they are terrible, but to each his own, as for brutal if you had read my post till the end you would have understood how i felt about it and wouldnt have had to question my opinion on it i don't like the flamer/laser hand either, but i'm willing to concede that with three or more variant designs to look through they probably just F'd up their notes somewhere. i'll wait for the alternate arms to come out, though. pity, i like that 'mech. |
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cause the workers at IWM have main jobs, IWM for them is a 2nd job/hobby to say it lightly it t could be they are busy with family and their main sources of income to have the product pirtures up, or they are waiting for a painted version of the item to me finished.
ok, but they have committed to selling a product and that is pointless if the buyer has no idea what the product is. all they have to do is put a small description of what the product is for example "crimson hawk arms resculpt with hands and large laser" took me five seconds to type that out, and while not the best description it at the very least indicates what it is. |
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i don't like the flamer/laser hand either, but i'm willing to concede that with three or more variant designs to look through they probably just F'd up their notes somewhere. i'll wait for the alternate arms to come out, though.
pity, i like that 'mech.
yeah i loved the first ones from MWDA with the hands cause the workers at IWM have main jobs, IWM for them is a 2nd job/hobby to say it lightly it t could be they are busy with family and their main sources of income to have the product pirtures up, or they are waiting for a painted version of the item to me finished.
they are a business and they have commited themselves to doing it, which means they need to make it easy for customers to get what they need, thats the basis of a business, regardless of how hard it may be, i take patients for subjects anytime its easy for them to come in not when its easy for me, its not my first job, im a student, thats what i do first but i committed myself to doing my part time work as well so i do whatever i have to do, and im not the only example of this im sure you can see how i feel about it |
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I can understand that though i would hardly consider school a job of any kind (job requires getting paid), but anyways you can always e-mail them to find out what the resculpted arms consist of. It might be faster than wondering and getting opinions from other players.
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