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Hi. Is there any word on what colour schemes and emblems the Minnesota Tribe ground and aerospace units contacted by the Combine wore? Also, what scheme did the SLDF Royal regiment recruited out of Minnesota (the 331st?) prior to the Exodus use... and is there a correlation between the two? |
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This came up not too long ago but now I can't find the thread. Oh wait, here it is: Minnesota Tribe questionAnyway, the Minnesota Tribe machines were "freshly painted in Regular Army colors". The exact meaning of that is a matter of some confusion/debate. We have no info on the 331st's paint scheme that I'm aware of. |
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What colours did the Regular Army have, in that case?
(The CamoSpecs examples all seem to be from the second Star League, not the first - but then, are there many Age of War or Star League units with minis to paint?)
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Looks like my edit and your follow-up post crossed in the night.
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So it would seem, Demi-Precentor.
(Maybe I should ask a more important question - is that rank of yours in ComStar, the Word of Blake... or perhaps in one without the knowledge of the other?)
EDIT: Is it known what variant of Lancelot the Tribe were encountered as using, or at least is there a 'best guess' in terms of repping said version in-game?
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What colours did the Regular Army have, in that case?
Olive drab was mentioned a couple of times in old sources. That's what I've been using on my Star League and Minnesota Tribe Mechs. |
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Kerensky's Orion during the fighting on Terra during the final phases against Amaris is described as being "Olive-drab", and I could swear that the rest of the Star League's mechs are described as the same way, but I can't find it right now in the original Star League book.
However, Field Manual Comstar states "As with the original Star League Defense Force, the new SLDF does not have an official color scheme for its vehicles. When required to display their vehicles for official ceremonies, they simply paint the vehicles olive drab." pg 77
So olive-drab for parade ground stuff and showing colors, but terrain-correct camo most of the other time.
The only place that describes the Lancelot as far as I know is the Comstar Sourcebook and all it says is "of exceptionally high quality." Best guess would be the standard 2750 Lancelot (25-01). There isn't a royal version so far (and lets face it, if you believe the various rumors about the Wolverines, hiding a Royal variant wouldn't be too hard for the Cabal/whatever), and most of the variants of the Lancelot seem to be post Star League, so the 25-01 is your best bet.
If you want to add some surprises to it, you could swap out the PPC for the Enhanced PPC the Wolverines developed, but there's no indication it was anything other than a standard Star League Lancelot.
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So olive-drab for parade ground stuff and showing colors, but terrain-correct camo most of the other time.
Or is it: Kappa [Galaxy] paints its equipment in classic Star League colors: white and gray, with blue and silver trim. Or is it: The subordinate regiments of the [Deneb Light Cavalry] prefer the SLDF's standard light tan paint scheme, even when circumstances would tend to dictate otherwise.  |
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Kappa Galaxy paints their mechs in standard urban camo, while the Deneb Light cavalry use the standard desert paint scheme  Yeah. Its a stretch On the other hand, my guess is olive-drab probably has more references |
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Olive drab has been mentioned several times that I've seen as well, and would guess thats the "Standard" paint scheme of the regular forces, perhaps the Royal mechs had white and gray, with blue and silver trim as a way of standing out? Or its just a urban camo scheme. Who knows?
I recently ordered a Pulverizer and plan to paint it in Olive Drab, and am painting either a stripe down the arms a grey and black, or highlighting edges in grey and black, the same colors as the Clan Wolverine logo. I have a belief that the Clans only really developed particular color schemes until after Nicholas died, most likely during the Clan Golden Age. They would have had more important things on their minds up until then, like Klondike, rebuilding the pentagon worlds and so forth. After the Wolverines left Clan space I can see them fully repainting their mechs Olive Drab as a way of showing they were the true Star League in Exile.
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I personally discount Kappa because that sounds like colours from the starleague itself rather than the SLDF. No real reason, just suspect phrasing. I have a belief that the Clans only really developed particular color schemes until after Nicholas died, most likely during the Clan Golden Age. They would have had more important things on their minds up until then, like Klondike, rebuilding the pentagon worlds and so forth. Disagree. Even if there is no official guidelines at the time individual units will be painted as one. This in turn would lead to the schemes becoming more unified as the clans gain a corporate identity. Sure there would be hold outs but we get those in the modern era as well so... After the Wolverines left Clan space I can see them fully repainting their mechs Olive Drab as a way of showing they were the true Star League in Exile. Yes and no. I agree with what you say but the tribe was raiding the great houses by this point so a lot off that pride may be gone. A drab olive scheme could very well be in place just don't expect them to be much more than pirates in a left over scheme. |
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(Maybe I should ask a more important question - is that rank of yours in ComStar, the Word of Blake... or perhaps in one without the knowledge of the other?)
Comstar, its the only logical choice. Herb is nuke happy. Randal is Precentor-Martial. Precentor-Martial is VSD. Ergo VSD survives because Herb wont nuke his boss. This also neatly explains why case white came so near the credit crunch and why VSD is always the hero. |
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Everyone knows that Minnesota Tribe color schemes should really be Maroon and Gold.
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The only place that describes the Lancelot as far as I know is the Comstar Sourcebook and all it says is "of exceptionally high quality." Best guess would be the standard 2750 Lancelot (25-01). There isn't a royal version so far (and lets face it, if you believe the various rumors about the Wolverines, hiding a Royal variant wouldn't be too hard for the Cabal/whatever), and most of the variants of the Lancelot seem to be post Star League, so the 25-01 is your best bet.
Incorrect. There is the LNC25-01X, described...argh, somewhere. Sorry, I'll try to find it. Lost all my notes and books, don'tcha know... |
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Incorrect. There is the LNC25-01X, described...argh, somewhere. Sorry, I'll try to find it. Lost all my notes and books, don'tcha know...
RS:3039 (the PDF-only one, not the print one) has an LNC25-01X with an era of 2864. |
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Prior to Amaris seizing Terra, Krupp had been field-testing a new prototype, the -01X, using more advanced technology. |
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IIRC the 15th Dracon writeup in the FM:CC say that this regiment paints its mechs in the standard SLDF Green- Gray camoflage pattern. So there's another option for you.
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IIRC the 15th Dracon writeup in the FM:CC say that this regiment paints its mechs in the standard SLDF Green- Gray camoflage pattern. So there's another option for you.
"The regiment uses the same gray and green paint scheme as their original Star League forebears." (p94) Sounds to me like that's saying the original 15th Dracon used that paint scheme, not necessarily that the standard SLDF used those colors. |
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Well, it could be that the SLDF itself didn't have a universal parade scheme, but individual units might. Really, though, it's yet another BattleTech continuity mess.
But somebody make a note of this, in case Liberation of Terra begins to move forward again.
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