CLASSIC BATTLETECH CATALYST game labs

Where's my mini's? 

mgctch?

Ahhhh come on...don't tell me you took your ball and went home? The fun's just startin....   

Sigh...he seems to have left.

WAIT! He's baccckk...no, he's gone.

I thought it was well done and to be honest it was posted faster than I would've expected... which to me is a good sign.

The truth is, even if the worse does happen we know Battletech (And other related franchises) will survive, how can I be so sure... because quite frankly it's happened before and we're still here.

It makes me very sad to see Catalyst in this situation.  Complaints or not i think we all love the work you guys do for our beloved game.  I hope things work out ok for Catalyst and Battletech.

So things aren't perfect, but they aren't terrible either. Guess we'll just keep on keeping on. So long as CGL keeps provideing us with excelent games material everything will be just fine.

Sometimes the most important things are what is not said. I agree that it is good that Catalyst got something up for the record fairly quickly. I think it was 6 hours from when I first read about it to now. I may disagree with the wholesale deletion of posts, but damage control is a risky and difficult procedure.  Running a business, and being involved in small businesses, I've seen this happen before. This will not cause me to stop buying Catalyst products. Good luck to all of you and us!

Wow...I'm glad something was able to come out now instead of letting people have a whole night to stew and work over speculations. Thanks CGL, for that.

Thanks CGL for this... "Upon further investigation, in which the owner has willingly participated, the owner in question now owes the company a significant balance and is working to help rectify the situation."

I've seen other companies give up. I've seen other business owners cut and run, letting the court systems decide their fate. I've worked for businesses that run into this as they grow. I've seen marriages ended due to these kinds of financial issues, just on a smaller scale. From the statement, and appearances, CGL and all involved are trying to resolve this as best as they all can try to, but they are -trying-.


QFT.

I've enjoyed BattleTech more in the CGL era than any other. I'm loving their casual games. I'm excited as heck about Leviathans.


Same here...my support stands, and I can only wish and hope for a smooth resolution and recovery for all.

Tell you what Welshman, if you want to continue deleting my posts without first discussing the content of the article so that I can self modify what you believe to be unsubstantiated rumors, I will stop posting here and post on Boardgame Geek and  Consim World.  Would that be better for you?

As for facts that can be proved, the facts on which I am debating was relayed by a prominent writer for Shadowrun in their forum which has not had the practice of deletion in which you seem to be engaging.  Furthermore, there is a posting by the former bookkeeper and operations manager of CGL.  As a statement from persons with knowledge they are not hearsay nor rumors.

As for defamation, truth is a defense.  Second, both Mr. Coleman and Bills are persons in the public eye and thus subject to lesser scrutiny than a private person.  Third, as a public company which solicits money from me, information about their status communicated and discussed with fellows of similar interests is a privileged communication - allowing for speculation and discussion.  Fourth, oh why go on.  

It's great to see Catalyst turnover is on the up at least. Bookeeping goofs happen afterall... fairly often in small businesses, where one party often ends up wearing three or more hats, in my experience.

I'll take the release at face value. It's good to know everyone is on the ball but sad to hear someone felt the need to walk away because of this. Best of luck to them and everyone at CGL.

Huh? Since when is Catalyst a public company? What exchange are they traded on?

Welshman, while the rules do include Rule 12, I think the pertinent one is actually Rule 13.

Countdown to threadlock in four...three...

(let's see if I get this in before the thread's got to be locked down...)

First off, the press release is refreshingly honest, as well as having a great deal of basic decency in not naming names.  Second, it's being handled internally, and IIRC, Catalyst is an LLC (Limited Liabilty Company), so there's no stockholders to panic with news of this sort (and by that panic, no requirement that further legal action is required between the company, and the partner/owner in question!)

So, with nobody getting sued, and the company not drowning in red ink, and a nice, already-negotiated and declared-out-front deal in place, what's the problem?  CGL's managed to stay above water in what has turned out to be one of the shittiest economies of the last forty years, in spite of existing in a shrinking general market and against far better established competitors with deeper reserves and less ethical business practices.

Okay, so someone screwed up, and now owes the company money. (Shrug) unless he jumps on the deal and takes a runner, this is just...well, it's news that the guys still have their business-end act together, that's all.

Unless someone who was SUPPOSED to get paid didn't, there isn't the kind of fatal problem FASA had.

That would be a mistake of Titanic proportions.  But hey, it's not my company, just my $$$.

Well, it's clear that something unplesent has happened. To what level, I have no idea. But I do know that people on this board are going to be chiming in with what they've heard, and sooner or later, what actually happened will be burried under a mound of half-truths, exagarations and out and out falsehoods. The owners of CGL are aware of the problem: is up to them to decide what to do. They will make their decision based on facts presented to them, fact that we probably never know (After all, do we know why Microsoft makes certain decisions?).

I have been reading through threads on other forums, and there is wild speculations about the people and amonts involved. There is also speculations about who will pick up the licences for these products if/when CGL goes under. Speculations that have nothing solid behind them! I don't know the people making the claims about amounts/people involved -- they may be true, they may not. There may any number of scenarios that played out here, but because most of us are not involved deeply with CGL, we don't know any/all the facts -- the owners of CGL do know/will know all the facts. If it's a court case, it is up to the owners to decide, not us.

I know people are pissed -- Hell, I am pissed. But who do we get pissed at? Why waste our anger on someone who may not deserve it? All I am asking is that we let the CGL owners decide what to do. It's their reputation on the line.

So, please, let's take a step back and sees what happenes, okay?

Craig